Clearly, people with mental illness live with both the stigma of mental illness and the stigmatizing physical and economic effects of the illness or of poverty, incarceration, homelessness, and unemployment. Research in this area has been ongoing since 1939, when Penrose first noted an inverse relationship between the number of psychiatric beds and the number of prison inmates. In fact, these physical and economic effects are not only causes of social conditions but social conditions themselves. No matter how many ways we study these forces—as independent variables, from the inside out, or from the outside in—and no matter what we call them—social problems or social constructions, poverty or mental illness—the end result is inevitably the same: research is conducted, the "complexities" are noted, and the call for more research is made.